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How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:22 pm
by CousinItt
Hi all,

according to the data sheet for the XL232, it has some USB pins. Are these present because it's a knobbled XU232 without a USB controller?

Is there any guidance on what to do with these pins when USB isn't (and presumably can't be) used?

Thanks

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:22 pm
by Redeye
I've got a 3 x XL232 design where all of the USB pins are left floating. I can't honestly remember if this was what was recommended by XMOS when they reviewed the design.

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:00 am
by mon2
Every article read so far (5+) on the net from assorted silicon suppliers and this topic states the same as Redeye has posted, just leave the USB D+/D- pins floating. The additional question is what to do with the voltage rails for the USB PHY, etc. I would leave room for just-in-case to power such pins. Better to ask XMOS through a support ticket to clarify and post your feedback here for future readers.

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:30 am
by Redeye
On my design I've got power to the USB supply pins. Again, I can't remember if this was what was recommended by XMOS, but the schematic was checked by them before I got the board made.

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:39 am
by CousinItt
Thanks mon2 and Redeye. I'll raise a ticket and post results here.

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:03 pm
by CousinItt
I posted a ticket. They said "post your question on the xcore support forum".

Still waiting...

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 pm
by mon2
Hi. We are reviewing a design with USB 2.0 hub controller and came across this topic of how to disable the USB port via straps.

While this may be an overkill for the XMOS CPU, it is an option to consider. Apply 0 ohm resistors to +3v3 to park the D+ and D- lines.
usb_hub_disable_port.png

Re: How to deal with USB pins on XL232 devices?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:09 pm
by CousinItt
Hi mon2 - sorry I missed your message. Thanks for the tip.

Still hoping someone from xmos might actually get around to answering this.