So, who is behind the Amiga X1000?

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So, who is behind the Amiga X1000?

Postby jonathan » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:21 pm

Show yourself!

http://a-eon.com/6.html

Who is behind this little piece of magic...? I am intrigued.

An Amiga with an XMOS XCore co-processor? Genius.
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Postby jason » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:32 pm

Indeed I would like to know too, is it anyone here?

Also see:

http://www.osnews.com/story/22693/New_A ... alcore_PPC
The AmigaOne X1000 catapults the Amiga platform into modernity, providing a rather flexible and powerful machine to run the AmigaOS on. It comes with a dual-core PowerPC processor, conforming to the Power ISA 2.04 standard. They cannot exactly reveal which processor it is, as orders from "higher up" forbid them to (AMCC Titan?). AmigaOS 4 developers currently run the processor at 1.6Ghz, but this is not the actual nominal clock speed.

Apart from the processor, the AmigaOne X1000 comes with some innovations that take the machine beyond the level of mere custom chips. The original Amiga was the first machine to employ the idea of custom chips for e.g. graphics, a practice adopted by the PC and Mac worlds much, much later (but in a cruder manner), so with the X1000, A-eon is taking it a step further: customisable processors.

The X1000 has an XMOS XCore, as the rumour mill had already suggested, and A-eon has renamed it Xena, in keeping with the traditions of the Amiga world. It's a programmable CPU, following the Software Defined Silicon concept developed by XMOS. INMOS transputer architect David May is one of the people behind XMOS.

"Capable of eight concurrent real-time threads with shared memory space, at up to 400 MIPS (about 6 68060s worth), Xena gives the X1000 a very flexible, very expandable co-processor," A-eon writes, "The uses are endless; control hardware, DSP functions, robotics, display - even SID chip and console emulators."
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Postby Folknology » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:54 pm

Sorry accidentally started a new thread about leads to the owner of X1000

http://www.xcore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=115

It was meant to post under this thread, not quite sure how that happened, apologies..
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Postby TonyD » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:51 pm

The AmigaOne X1000 specs look interesting:
  • ATX Formfactor
  • Dual-core PowerISA v2.04+ CPU
  • "Xena" XMOS XS1-L1 128 SDS
  • 7.1 channel HD audio
  • 4x DDR2 RAM slots
  • 10x USB 2.0
  • 1x Gigabit Ethernet
  • 2x PCIe x16 slots (1x16 or 2x8)
  • 2x PCIe x1 slots
  • 1x Xorro slot
  • 2x PCI legacy slots
  • 2x RS232
  • 4x SATA 2 connectors
  • 1x IDE connector
  • JTAG connector
  • 1x Compact Flash
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Postby The_RB » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:58 pm

TonyD wrote:...

but the price at 1295 USD feels expensive :(
Especially without photos.
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Postby jonathan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:38 pm

TonyD wrote:but the price at 1295 USD feels expensive :(
This looks to be misreporting.

From the original post, I read that it would sell for less than the original Amiga A1000. The author had then looked up the Amiga A1000 price at $1295. No-one has said whether that is inflation-adjusted or not, so your price range is essentially, taking into account US inflation since 1985...

$0 < X1000 < $2558

Frankly, I would be astonished if they don't sell the X1000 for exactly $1000.
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Postby billt » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:54 pm

TonyD wrote:but the price at 1295 USD feels expensive :(
Where was a price announced? I haven't found it anywhere...
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Postby trousers » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:16 am

jonathan wrote:Frankly, I would be astonished if they don't sell the X1000 for exactly $1000.
I think you should get your antonishment trousers ironed and ready to wear. I'll wear my socks of mild surpise if you're right.

A-eon refer to the SAM motherboard as "low-end" (http://www.a-eon.com/6.html). The price lists here (http://www.acube-systems.biz/index.php? ... ware&pid=2) show that the cheapest complete system, not including an OS, keybaord or mouse, is 563 Euros. You can buy AmigaOS 4 for the SAM for 134 Euros from http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/cat ... cts_id=839 (that includes tax, lets knock off 20% to account for that): 107 Euros.

So, the cheapest complete "low-end" system is 670 Euro which is US$961. Plus tax; would be US$1153 if bought direct from ACube in Italy.

It's really hard to see how a brand new high-end system is going to be cheaper that the cheapest low-end system.
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Postby jonathan » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:21 am

:lol:

As you can see on the Amiga forums, people seem to believe that if they shout loudly about the fact the price CANNOT be more than X, then they are hoping they will be listened to.

The economics are very interesting. Assuming you ask the community what they are willing to pay, you enter a nice piece of behavioural experimental game theory.

So come on, let's all predict *low prices*.
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